HCG use and PCT IMO

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bigbuff420

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Few questions regarding HCG:

1. I do not have access to a personal fridge, how long would HCG last in BW or the solution it comes with if not refrigerated after mixing?

2. I have a 5000iu HCG powder amp that has the date 2013-06 on it. I also have a 1ml solvens pro pregnyl amp that has the date 2014-02 on it. The amps say "N.V. Organon Oss Holland." Are these still good? I bought them a few months before June 2013, so I'm a bit surprised about the dates.

3. Would this HCG still be good if it was exposed to summer/winter temperatures? I moved while I had it, so it was in a U-Haul, but it has never been mixed.

4. If the HCG must be refrigerated no matter what, what would be the best use of it for PCT? I'm planning to run test-e for 10-12 weeks with anavar and strictly nolvadex for PCT (maybe clomid too, not sure). I could probably split the HCG into slin pins and refrigerate it for a week or two, but no way I could have it refrigerated throughout my cycle.
 
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bigbuff420 said:
Few questions regarding HCG:

1. I do not have access to a personal fridge, how long would HCG last in BW or the solution it comes with if not refrigerated after mixing?

2. I have a 5000iu HCG powder amp that has the date 2013-06 on it. I also have a 1ml solvens pro pregnyl amp that has the date 2014-02 on it. The amps say "N.V. Organon Oss Holland." Are these still good? I bought them a few months before June 2013, so I'm a bit surprised about the dates.

3. Would this HCG still be good if it was exposed to summer/winter temperatures? I moved while I had it, so it was in a U-Haul, but it has never been mixed.

4. If the HCG must be refrigerated no matter what, what would be the best use of it for PCT? I'm planning to run test-e for 10-12 weeks with anavar and strictly nolvadex for PCT (maybe clomid too, not sure). I could probably split the HCG into slin pins and refrigerate it for a week or two, but no way I could have it refrigerated throughout my cycle.
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Are you saying you just cant leave it in the fridge because someone will see it or just don't have one ?
If that's the case get a small cooler and some re freezable ice packs. If it's not refrigerated it'd going to degrade faster, I really don't know how long.
I wouldn't worry to much on the expiration dates as long as it wasn't mixed or sitting in sun light. It may lose some potency but not much IMO.
Best to use thru cycle I use 500ius E5D, if you can't do this then use 500 ius 4xweek for the 2 weeks after your last test shot leading up to PCT...................11
 
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bigbuff420

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I meant I don't want mt roommates to fjnd the HCG in our fridge and ask questions. I didnt even think about using a cooler. Thanks!
 
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jackhammer00

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This is some good info for anyone who is running HCG. There are so many different theories as to how to run it and when but this makes sense and works.
 
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Phera-Plex

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I recently had blood work done and my test levels were low 307 ng/dl. I have done a few runs with hcg that lasted 20-25 days where I would inject 5000iu every 5 days to try and get my levels up to normal followed by taking nolva 20mg and clomid 50mg a day for an additional 30 days. While I feel great while on the hcg my levels seem to crash as I go off. Is there anything I should be doing differently to stimulate my testes to produce test more permanently. It looks like I have been dosing it too high from reading this and maybe not taking it long enough. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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beej1989 said:
I recently had blood work done and my test levels were low 307 ng/dl. I have done a few runs with hcg that lasted 20-25 days where I would inject 5000iu every 5 days to try and get my levels up to normal followed by taking nolva 20mg and clomid 50mg a day for an additional 30 days. While I feel great while on the hcg my levels seem to crash as I go off. Is there anything I should be doing differently to stimulate my testes to produce test more permanently. It looks like I have been dosing it too high from reading this and maybe not taking it long enough. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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How old are you ? Depending on your age 307 might be in the " acceptable " range.
Also was the 5000 ius prescribed by a doctor or just decided to do that yourself.
Using it just to get your levels up is not something I feel I can't help you with. When you go back on cycle I recommend following my sticky and hopefully your recovery will leave your levels after cycle at a higher range. If your over 45 it might be time to consider staying on test if you want higher test levels ?? .......11
 
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Phera-Plex

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Eleven11 said:
How old are you ? Depending on your age 307 might be in the " acceptable " range.
Also was the 5000 ius prescribed by a doctor or just decided to do that yourself.
Using it just to get your levels up is not something I feel I can't help you with. When you go back on cycle I recommend following my sticky and hopefully your recovery will leave your levels after cycle at a higher range. If your over 45 it might be time to consider staying on test if you want higher test levels ?? .......11
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I'm under 30. Some brief history on my test levels and usage. I've ran a few prohormones back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine. When I started experimenting in AAS back in 2010 I never used HCG on cycle or as part of recovery and I'm paying the price. After my 3rd cycle in 2011 I got bloodwork because I was feeling like ass. My test levels were extremely low 180 ng/dl. I then decided to take the hcg nolva/clomid protocol that I came up with myself and got bloodwork done 4 months later. My levels were then 608 ng/dl so my ghetto pct worked. I haven't taken AAS in 2 years since tearing my pec but again my libido was non existent post cycle so I did my hcg protocol and felt fine for a month and then back to shit. I've repeated it 2 more times since then and still felt in the dumps so I went and got bloodwork done last week. I just got the results back today. My Dr. said that my levels are low for my age and she may want me to see an endocrinologist after we do further testing. I know that I respond to hcg because I feel awesome while on it I just would like to know if there's a way to keep that test boost up permanently?
 
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Phera-Plex

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Eleven11 said:
Using it just to get your levels up is not something I feel I can't help you with
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So it can or can't be used on its own to raise test levels? I get the idea that you were trying to say that you couldn't help me use it to just get my levels up but technically the way you worded that sentence means you can help me?
 
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Crankster

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beej1989 said:
I'm under 30. Some brief history on my test levels and usage. I've ran a few prohormones back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine. When I started experimenting in AAS back in 2010 I never used HCG on cycle or as part of recovery and I'm paying the price. After my 3rd cycle in 2011 I got bloodwork because I was feeling like ass. My test levels were extremely low 180 ng/dl. I then decided to take the hcg nolva/clomid protocol that I came up with myself and got bloodwork done 4 months later. My levels were then 608 ng/dl so my ghetto pct worked. I haven't taken AAS in 2 years since tearing my pec but again my libido was non existent post cycle so I did my hcg protocol and felt fine for a month and then back to shit. I've repeated it 2 more times since then and still felt in the dumps so I went and got bloodwork done last week. I just got the results back today. My Dr. said that my levels are low for my age and she may want me to see an endocrinologist after we do further testing. I know that I respond to hcg because I feel awesome while on it I just would like to know if there's a way to keep that test boost up permanently?
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You previously mentioned "back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine" you may to consider this again.
 
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beej1989 said:
So it can or can't be used on its own to raise test levels? I get the idea that you were trying to say that you couldn't help me use it to just get my levels up but technically the way you worded that sentence means you can help me?
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Sorry that came out wrong, Using it alone just to get levels up is not something I can help with and not sure that would work, or would work but what happens after you stop ?.
Advise from a doc would be best...............11
 
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Phera-Plex

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Crankster said:
You previously mentioned "back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine" you may to consider this again.
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I'm gonna run this by the doc and give it another go before getting on something like androgel. I'm going to try Anthony Roberts 6 week PCT with a much lower dose of hcg taken with nolva and aromasin not to suppress my LH receptors and get bloodwork after. How long should I wait after this to get bloodwork?
 
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alias81 said:
Can anybody tell me if it's possible to freeze HCG once it's been mixed?

This would really help me out
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Didn't see this. answer is no. You can put IGF1 in the freezer because it won't freeze but don't freeze the HCG mix what you use and pitch the rest, it's cheap............11
 
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Drumsticks

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I'm like a sponge when reading your posts. I always learn something new every Time! Thanks for taking the time to share all of that!
 
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