HCG use and PCT IMO

bigstick

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Great thread. I just read the whole damn thing. Im old school and ran my pct the old way using hcg with nov 2weeks after last shot ester clears then starting clomid after with nov for 4 weeks. My last blood work showed my test levels at 281 after being clean for six months due to injury but my nuts are gone. Im 43 and have been doing some big long cycle over the last 13 yrs. I never really seen much info or protocals on hmg. Any info would be great. Respect.

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firefighter67

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just did my pct and went gr8, back on better then i have been in past
used: hcg, clomid, nov
hcg 1000iu eod for 20day
clomid 100 for 2 weeks down to 50 total of 30 days
and nov 40 for 45 days can drop to 20 but my main side to anything is gyno
 

Eleven11

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just did my pct and went gr8, back on better then i have been in past
used: hcg, clomid, nov
hcg 1000iu eod for 20day
clomid 100 for 2 weeks down to 50 total of 30 days
and nov 40 for 45 days can drop to 20 but my main side to anything is gyno

1000 mg eod for 20 days???? I hope you meant 100mg.
But if that worked for you then great but I'd never do that ................11
 

stickfigure71

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clomid/nolva blood work

hi i am on clomid 25 mgs, nolva 20...been on clomid for 5/6 weeks, nolva for 3..got my blood work today, test was at 880...Should i start to taper the clomid/nolva? or stay on it for awhile? or just drop the clomid and continue nolva? thanks for any info, i don't want to do anything counterproductive...
 

Eleven11

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hi i am on clomid 25 mgs, nolva 20...been on clomid for 5/6 weeks, nolva for 3..got my blood work today, test was at 880...Should i start to taper the clomid/nolva? or stay on it for awhile? or just drop the clomid and continue nolva? thanks for any info, i don't want to do anything counterproductive...

Drop the Clomid and use the nolva for 1-2 more weeks..............11
 

stickfigure71

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one last question

oh yeah, i have read after dropping the clomid, and then doing nolva for a week or two, then i should run an AI for maybe 4 or 5 days...is that still the current thinking on stuff? thanks a ton for the info
 

crispybacon

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Is running hcg at 500iu e/w sub q sufficient on cycle with tren or is better to split 250 twice a week?

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Eleven11

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Is running hcg at 500iu e/w sub q sufficient on cycle with tren or is better to split 250 twice a week?

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I do 500ius E5D and feel it's fine, if your talking 1 wk split it into 2) 250iu shots
With tren I really recommend using either masteron or proviron along with HCG with it, makes all the difference for me..................11
 

crispybacon

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I do 500ius E5D and feel it's fine, if your talking 1 wk split it into 2) 250iu shots
With tren I really recommend using either masteron or proviron along with HCG with it, makes all the difference for me..................11

Are you injecting im or subq? Dont have either for this cycle but have torem, prami and adex

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Eleven11

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Are you injecting im or subq? Dont have either for this cycle but have torem, prami and adex

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Only shoot HCG sugQ.
Are you going to use Torem for PCT, I've heard great things about it..........11
 

crispybacon

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Only shoot HCG sugQ.
Are you going to use Torem for PCT, I've heard great things about it..........11

This is going to be fun first long cycle ~6 months so probably going to run 6 weeks nolva/clomid then another month of torem for PCT or vice versa. But running it e3d at 40mg through cycle as well

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olazabal

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Just finishing up an 18 week cycle of test/deca. Going to run hcg for 2 weeks then hop on a SERM. I have torem and clomid on hand. Which one would you use and why? Thanks
 

crispybacon

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Just finishing up an 18 week cycle of test/deca. Going to run hcg for 2 weeks then hop on a SERM. I have torem and clomid on hand. Which one would you use and why? Thanks

Read the start of this thread, then search a bit more on the forum. Seems to be down to preference in the end
 

olazabal

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Thanks, but this thread was started years ago. Just wanted to see what people's current stance on torem vs clomid was.
 
Follow up question.

It doesn't matter how much BW you use it all comes down to math.
Now I mix 1cc BW into 5,000ius HCG p0wder. I use 1cc slinpins and thay are numbered 10-100 so each 10 mark will be 500ius HCG (1/10th of 5,000) so if you mix 1cc BW and your using a 1/2cc pin the 10 mark will still be 500ius.
If you mix 2cc's BW into 5,000ius HCG p0wder then that same 10mark will be 250ius so to inject 500ius you'll need to draw up to the 20mark.
You never said how much you want to inject but I wouldn't inject more than 500ius at a time................11

Mr. 11, Big Dawg, THE doogie howser of OLM, :)

So I think I got you now, I have the 0-50 slin pins myself and 5000 iu's of HCG, so mix with 1ml of BAC water, then each 10 mark on the slin pin will give me 500iu's, yielding 10 doses at that concentration correct ??

I'm 3 weeks into my first cycle and was going to start running my HGC beginning week 5, (12 week cycle) with 10 doses this gives me enough to run it 2 week after last pin. I was thinking of the 500iu's once a week, but technically the dosage recommendation is every 5 day's. Lets say I do 500iu's every sunday, would the 2 day's make that much difference, or do I need to calculate this out to every 5 day's ?
Thanks in advance.
 
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Eleven11

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Mr. 11, Big Dawg, THE doogie howser of OLM, :)

So I think I got you now, I have the 0-50 slin pins myself and 5000 iu's of HCG, so mix with 1ml of BAC water, then each 10 mark on the slin pin will give me 500iu's, yielding 10 doses at that concentration correct ??

I'm 3 weeks into my first cycle and was going to start running my HGC beginning week 5, (12 week cycle) with 10 doses this gives me enough to run it 2 week after last pin. I was thinking of the 500iu's once a week, but technically the dosage recommendation is every 5 day's. Lets say I do 500iu's every sunday, would the 2 day's make that much difference, or do I need to calculate this out to every 5 day's ?
Thanks in advance.

yes to your measuring.
The fact that your using it during cycle makes a big difference, I don't think 2 days will matter but just see how it goes and how you feel..............11
 
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