I like your PCT layout (clomid/nolva) and if this works for you thats great. But from everything Ive read I would not do it this way, running HCG with nolva/clomid AFTER AAS has clearded is not recommended but the bottom line here is you've takin the time to try something different and it has worked for you, same with me if I read something that makes since to me I will give it a try and if works I'll stick with it till something better comes along. Like I said in my initial post this is IMO on how to use HCG and your opinion is welcome................11
Eleven11, I agree with you on using HCG during cycle, but I have used this for shorter cycles, where HPTA suppression is usually not as harsh due to duration and the fact that I don't use megadoses and more than 3 AAS compounds at a time (usually not even 3). I've had good success with it too. Longer cycles....yes HCG would be a must while on. One thing/problem with HCG as of lately is that I have found less and less people carrying it.
As for what I put in bold...I have meant and thought of doing the HCG a little bit earlier (approximately the time of my last shot say of AAS or appoximately 2 weeks before ending AAS), but I really just haven't got around to trying it yet, because I was running some PH/prosteroids and switched over to S-4. I will give it a try most likely after this run.
I completly understand what you mean when you say this is your opinion on HCG. Honestly, I will probably give yours a try in the near future. I respect your opinion and the fact that you are confident enough in your HCG use to post it as information for others. I don't doubt that it doesn't work, it seems to make sense to me. My initial post was to let people know that it can be used effectively PCT; and therefore saying it wasn't for PCT at all was wrong or a misconception.
Questions for you...
1. Do you have a link or scanned image of HCG use regarding the spike 72 hours later? It that Sub-q or IM?
2. In your protocol, is HCG Sub-q or IM?
I have the Anabolics 2007, which is the 6th edition. I will try to find it. I don't know how I could of missed that. It always good to see when people base their methods and protocols on science/studies, but science doesn't always work like it does on paper and thats when personal experience comes in. Much respect for you Eleven11. Thanks for the fast reply.
HOW LONG CAN YOU KEEP THE SYRINGES IN THE FRIDGE???? Great post by the way very helpful.. Thank You
I read about the spike in the old anabolic reference guide 6th edition. and have seen it elsewhere.
Ive always done subq but curious to see if any difference IM. I could see how IM would enter bloodstream faster.........11
Did you ever find out if there is a difference?
Thanks.
Hey 11, i want to run Hcg pre-pct. Ive been running it throughout my Test E/TrenE cycle at 500mcg e5d. So just to be clear i have to run it for 14 days, starting after my last shot at the same dosage? and then start my PCT?
ok bro, thanks alot. the 500mcg e5d will be enough though? i read some threads were guys take higher doses during that time. just want to b sure.thanks
If one is on TRT, is HCG ever necessary? Because i feel that i have low test and will probably get on TRT but when i took test in the past with no HCG, my sex drive would fall after 8 weeks. What are your thoughts?