Typical TRT Dose for mid 40s? (And Arimidex or no?)

Ascendant

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The thread title pretty much explains it. I went onto TRT years ago, but due to going back to college, no insurance, and a VERY tight budget, I haven't had the money to keep up with doctors about it. I've been doing ~90mg twice per week (so 180mg total), usually of sustanon or a similar compound (due to better prices compared to cyp). I would typically do 0.5mg of adex twice per week along with it too, but not sure if that's necessary? I mean back then, I was a lot bigger, but I haven't been able to keep up with my workouts like I used to. Mainly just able to stay in modest cardio health and maintain modest muscle these days.

After brushing back up on this recently, it seems like 180mg might be a bit high? I am fairly certain I have an enlarged prostate to some degree, as I do have problems urinating at times (particularly at night, and will get up 3-4 times a night typically to pee, and takes anywhere from immediately to 120 seconds to get started). So after looking around, I'm thinking of cutting down to maybe about 120mg per week, especially with me not working out as much as I used to. At that dose, should I still be doing the adex along with it?

I have an appointment with the clinic at my college next week, and want to see if they can do my bloodwork and see how things are looking currently. In the meantime though, what do you guys think I should do?
 

nhbskull21

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Only your blood work cant tell you. Some people let their estrogen go if they have wrong word feel no sides. Some people like a ratio of test to estrogen. Some people like a specific number.
 

Ascendant

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Thanks for the information. I'm going to try going down just a little to 160mg/wk total for now, and drop the adex, see how I feel. Hopefully, this doctor will be able to run that bloodwork for me in a price range I can afford
 

Bubba2.0

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I wasn't exactly on your protocol but I'll share what I learned 6 months ago.
Ran about 200mg test per week and 1mg Adex (Both bi-weekly)

Test came in at 1,000- happy with this #
Estradiol in SINGLE digits- 1mg crushed me
 

JohnyTest

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I wasn't exactly on your protocol but I'll share what I learned 6 months ago.
Ran about 200mg test per week and 1mg Adex (Both bi-weekly)

Test came in at 1,000- happy with this #
Estradiol in SINGLE digits- 1mg crushed me
Exact same thing happened to me running the same test amount, but only 1mg adex per week. Based on what my initial e2 number was fellow forum (other forum) members suggested not to take an AI, but my Dr wanted me to start taking a half a mg a week.
I typically run some mast with my test but if not I'll throw in a half mg of Adex a week.
 

Pez

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We forget that while AIs are great they can wreak havoc with one's HDL and if you have an E2 of 33 (I did) 0.5mg of Arimidex 3x/wk took it to <5 which is as good as zero. I was just taking 200mg/wk. I have primary testicular failure. That means they just went kaput. A normal Leutenizing Hormone (LH) is (3-8), or was. That is the signal for test production and my FSH (Sperm prod in males and works with eggs in females). I went from 414 to 998. Guys, you need estrogen for your dick to work. Low or microdoses of AIs can easi;y get you into the promised land 15-30 - 20 is ideal.
 

Pez

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Exact same thing happened to me running the same test amount, but only 1mg adex per week. Based on what my initial e2 number was fellow forum (other forum) members suggested not to take an AI, but my Dr wanted me to start taking a half a mg a week.
I typically run some mast with my test but if not I'll throw in a half mg of Adex a week.
T 1/2 life is 3 days. Think about 0.25mg on Mon & Thurs maybe. What have your estrogen levels come back at.
 

joeg22111

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You have the answers now OP. Let us know how the bloods went. Mean time… if any tangible sides (unexpected) start to show up the board can help further.
 

JohnyTest

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T 1/2 life is 3 days. Think about 0.25mg on Mon & Thurs maybe. What have your estrogen levels come back at.
32 and 40 were my last 2 readings. However, I don't take Adex all the time, I use a 1:1 or 1.5:1 ratio of Test/Mastron.
 

denicnut!

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32 and 40 were my last 2 readings. However, I don't take Adex all the time, I use a 1:1 or 1.5:1 ratio of Test/Mastron.
I have a friend that’s a big boy he’s prob around 250lbs still and trying to get to a “normal “ trt lol his used to be 400mg of test but now he’s doing 250mg test and 200mg of primo and he said his blood looks good and he loves the way he feels just concerned that down the road the primo is gonna kill his estrogen too much…but he can play that a couple different ways the next time he gets blood again to compare …I think I like the way I’d feel overall better on Masteron low dose like that but I bet the primo have a better cosmetic effect over time low dose like that
 

Bubba2.0

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I have a friend that’s a big boy he’s prob around 250lbs still and trying to get to a “normal “ trt lol his used to be 400mg of test but now he’s doing 250mg test and 200mg of primo and he said his blood looks good and he loves the way he feels just concerned that down the road the primo is gonna kill his estrogen too much…but he can play that a couple different ways the next time he gets blood again to compare …I think I like the way I’d feel overall better on Masteron low dose like that but I bet the primo have a better cosmetic effect over time low dose like that
Is he concerned because Primo has crushed his estrogen in the past?
 

denicnut!

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Is he concerned because Primo has crushed his estrogen in the past?
I think more that it will catch up at these doses and will crush it too much…it definitely lowered his estrogen but his test was prob 2.5-3x what his primo dose was so I’d guess 2500mg test and 1000mg primo per week…so at an almost 1:1 it could warrant bumping the test a little more…I like EQ for adding an anabolic to also control estrogen but prob wouldn’t add that to a trt type deal but I would also lean towards 200mg of primo rather than 200mg of Masteron I feel like one could get a lot more out of that over time
 

Bubba2.0

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I think more that it will catch up at these doses and will crush it too much…it definitely lowered his estrogen but his test was prob 2.5-3x what his primo dose was so I’d guess 2500mg test and 1000mg primo per week…so at an almost 1:1 it could warrant bumping the test a little more…I like EQ for adding an anabolic to also control estrogen but prob wouldn’t add that to a trt type deal but I would also lean towards 200mg of primo rather than 200mg of Masteron I feel like one could get a lot more out of that over time

Cool, thank you for the valuable insight
 

nomadft2024

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Like most have already said try and get rid or Adex. No need for it and downsides are significant. (lipids, etc).

First HRT clinic put me on 200mg TCyp, 1mg of Adex 2-3x week along w/HCG...fnnnn crazy...they want to sell you as much meds as possible ;) Before adding AI at 150-250 type dose I would split up dosing to 3x week and see how you feel- Good luck
 

JohnyTest

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I have a friend that’s a big boy he’s prob around 250lbs still and trying to get to a “normal “ trt lol his used to be 400mg of test but now he’s doing 250mg test and 200mg of primo and he said his blood looks good and he loves the way he feels just concerned that down the road the primo is gonna kill his estrogen too much…but he can play that a couple different ways the next time he gets blood again to compare …I think I like the way I’d feel overall better on Masteron low dose like that but I bet the primo have a better cosmetic effect over time low dose like that
Funny you mention Primo because I'm almost out if Mast and was thinking of making that exact switch. I have never tried Primo, but from reading I would probably start at a 2:1 Test/Mast ratio.
 
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